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窗外阴天了 音乐低声了我的心开始想你了灯光也暗了 音乐低声了口中的棉花糖也融化了窗外阴天了 人是无聊了我的心开始想你了
还是请求斑竹删掉这篇文章吧!
人世间的事谁也无法掌握 该执着的,永不怨悔 该舍去的,不再牵挂 该珍惜的,好好把握 我爱雨天……………!

这是“诗人”伊沙对这篇文章的回应(附网友评论)

清算齐秦





即便在少女们已经用“酷”这个词把标准搞乱的今天,我还是坚持认可齐秦的形象,我想男人的样子如果也有美丑之分,齐秦就算是一种“美”吧。  


他是偶像时代到来之前的一个偶像,对我们那代人来说。“我们那代人”具体是指出生于60年代中后期,在80年代受完中学和大学教育的那批人,这是人生履历趋于正常(从幼儿园一直上到大学)的最初一批人,又是文化膨胀时代的最后一批人。齐秦于这代人的意义是不寻常的。

诗人徐江在《文友》杂志上发表了一篇文章,名叫《齐秦是一个悲哀》。他在这篇文章中把齐秦和崔健、罗大佑并在一起谈,并分析齐秦赶不上崔罗的原因。这其实是个伪命题,是徐江为自己制造一个伪命题然后一本正经地论证了它。我了解徐江属于“我们那代人”,知道他此举属于感情用事,属于“我们那代人”的感情用事。

记忆中的大学是北京灰蒙蒙的刮风的冬天,那时在学生宿舍的破录音机里被反复播放的好象就只有崔健、罗大佑和齐秦。但现在回想他们三人的职能又是完全不同的。如果硬要来概括,我会这样说:崔健是“灵魂革命”,罗大佑是“音乐教育”,齐秦是“情感滋润”。所以他们三人同为偶像,但意义却各不相同。齐秦是为“我们那代人”灰色冬天里的爱情配乐的人,以至于我们的爱情多少都有一点齐秦歌曲的味道。可以这么说,齐秦是那代人的“情歌王子”,这个“王子”形象带着那代人所特有的也是最后的人文趣味。

我是这样,我相信徐江也是这样,当我们看到齐秦不过是个一般性的偶像歌手时就不免有些失落,看到他不过是习气未脱的那个庸俗的艺人圈中的一员(他和王祖贤作秀般的爱情)时不免有些失望。其实齐秦一直没变,他自始至终就是这么一个人。变的是我们自己,是那个与我们的青春相伴的人文时代已经彻底远去。

齐秦,偶像时代到来前的一个偶像,被一代人严重地误听——今天,我们清算齐秦就是清算我们自己。

  
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nc 4/7/00 6:01:12 PM
  
Almost all of these comments are senseless. The article is too clear to confuse anybody.
You don't undersand what he is saying only because you don't have this kind of experience.
Eyery single word in this article is what I am trying to say.



小米 1/13/00 5:11:08 PM
  
非常同意钉子的看法,伊沙实在是一个非常无聊的人,靠骂人出名的人我很看不起。



小米 1/13/00 5:09:45 PM
  
非常同意钉子的看法,伊沙实在是一个非常无聊的人,靠骂人出名的人我很看不起。



kingroot 12/27/99 3:34:25 PM
  
齐秦是为数很少的我还在听的几个老歌手之一。相信25-28岁的人有许多也这么认为。他一直是我认为的属于那种曲、词、唱皆有灵性之人。罗大佑、崔健在唱功上不及之。而其曲中的自然灵性又要胜于工于雕琢的那二人。他只为爱情的呐喊,而罗大佑、崔健却试图包括太多含义而显得有时失去重点。听纪念日、爱情宣言、花祭 你不为爱而震颤而痛心吗而忧伤而扼腕吗?
当然一切只在“痛并快乐着”出现之前。之后则随流矣,尽管销量很好。或如任何一位歌手,终有才尽之时。然而,足以令其在歌坛占应有的位子。



无聊 12/26/99 10:44:37 PM
  
这文章怎么能写成这样?哈哈,作家啊。



无聊 12/26/99 10:43:30 PM
  
这文章怎么能写成这样?哈哈,作家啊。



章黎 12/26/99 9:58:55 PM
  
作家在网上设立专栏也算是一件时髦的事情。但看了一阵子之後实在是有点失望。
首先,作家发表了一篇文章之後便消身匿迹,任凭一帮网友怎麽样唇枪舌剑,作家
也不再露面,因此并没有太多作家与读者的交流。另外一点感觉就是,写专栏的作
家实在是很辛苦,不管是写老式的报纸上的专栏还是新式的网上的专栏都是如此。
给人的感觉是不管是否有话可说,专栏一定得出,因此有时候只好搞些无聊的东西
凑数。伊沙的书我读过两本,也还算有些意思。但两本书中数十篇文章,内容相当
的局限,有时候一个故事在不同的文章中一用再用。感觉上是作者的人生经历和想
象力都有限。这也不足为怪,本来伊沙就很年轻,写小说时看来也奉行只写自己身
边发生的事情的原则。这都无可非议。但写文章最好是在有话要讲、不吐不快的情
形下。如果不是这样,那麽不写也罢。



Bian Tou 12/21/99 12:19:28 PM
  

To rapid-fire,

Critisizing is a skill too. Not everybody can critisize other to the point. This is not called mean, this is called having INSIGHT. BTW, your logic is rediculous. Let me give you a couple examples: if you went to a restrunant and didn't like the food, does that mean you can critisize it because you can't cook a better dish? You watch a football game, and you critisize a player, do you have to be a better player? You need to open your mind.




Overlook 12/21/99 12:33:34 AM
  
By looking at people's posting here, I am glad that this article invites all these comments followed. Think about it, this is the beauty of internet. I respect everyone of you posting your comments here. The more comments follows the better interaction presents. Thank you all! Have a very merry Christmas and Happy New Century....



Confused 12/20/99 6:24:58 PM
  
Well, in regard to the comments by Rapid-fire, I don't think I passed any "judgements" on anyone (that responsibility belongs to the God, I guess), I just talked about my feelings about you guys. I can't shut you up, as you didn't, but I can point to your face, and say "Shut up!". Can't I?

When you posted something on the Internet, and pushed it to everyone's face, I think everyone has the right to say "this is garbage". Since you dare to make this piece of junk public, be ready for the bullets. You guys have made the Internet a dump, however, I would be very happy to clean it.



伙计或者火鸡 12/20/99 4:24:45 PM
  
作者是不是一直在找他的敌人?他说他是在清算自己,但从他的口气里面却看不出来.树敌似乎是中国当今文化走进90年代以后的一个大的特征,但这个敌人的选定是那么荒唐可笑,让人有时觉得滑稽.我实在不认为这篇文章有什么更深的含义,老实说,他在出售一种话语垃圾!!



rapid-fire 12/20/99 6:55:34 AM
  
As for lu-xun, some of his works are literature and some of his works are worthless either. I have the same comment for Lu xun. He is too bitter. People have right to express their feeling about a novel at any time. Maybe it is wrong, maybe it is right, it it is overreacted. But it is not your business to tell them to shut up. It is not your judgement whether they are ignorant or not. Just post your own feeling. I will respect that.



Confused 12/19/99 7:29:39 PM
  
Too bad, guys. I guess this world is not perfect. I feel sorry for you if this article is too "bloody" for your sensitive mind. Well, if you think this is too much for you, try to read Lu Xun's novels. Yeah, these are real literatures. Just don't faint.

As talked about by the author in his last paragraph, Qi Qin in this article, is not the real Qi Qin as we have been listening to, but a symbol, an impression, a conveyance of the author's youthful and immature feeling ten years ago.

If you cannot understand anything deeper in an article than the surface, please stop adding comments. They exposed nothing but your ignorance and stupidity.




rapid-fire 12/19/99 6:25:28 PM
  
the author is a mean person. he always claims that other people are no good while he can not create something beatiful by himself. His only skill is to criticize other people bitterly. If other people's novel are no good, show me yours. If somebody's song is stupid, can you even sing by yourself.






钉子 12/19/99 4:57:14 PM
  
这篇文章非常无聊.动不动就用一些斗争哲学中的字眼,象清算之类.我实在不理解为什么用这些字来表达60年代出生的人,那个时代有大规模的流血么?如果有的话,只是这些人的父辈所经历的文化大革命.齐秦是一个演艺人,别的什么也不是.有什么可清算的?况且60年代出生的人现在正渡过最旺盛的年华,需要什么清算?人还没有死,事情还没有终结,用清算这个字眼只能看出此文作者的那种堂基柯德般的可怜,而且他的头脑里连一个风车的印象都没有,有的恰恰是他自己在别人面前永远是一个小人的地位.面对一个演艺人,这位作者太把自己不当文化人了!!!弄得煞有介事,所谓对齐秦的清算,只是一次无聊的梦呓.
中国的文人啊
这两篇文章是他们嘴脸的缩影
狗屁文人!!只懂得贬低他人来提高自己的知名度罢了!!
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唉,不要犯了“嗔戒”嘛
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